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Update mute and solo buttons, add them to instrument windows #7708
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From the screenshot you provided, it looks like the mute and solo buttons are being merged into the same space as that of the volume knob. I'm thinking having a separate section for the mute and solo buttons (with a label like |
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Code changes look good to me. Will test and wait for CI before approving.
Co-authored-by: Sotonye Atemie <[email protected]>
To me the knobs feel a bit crowded, almost like the pitch range lcd should be moved closer to the channel lcd, idk |
I think there was some separation already added before this PR, but since we need that space now it's probably okay to remove. |
- Change label from "M/S" to "M&S", as to not be confused with mid/side - Adjust layout to preserve space between panning and pitch bend controls
After some more discussion in the Discord, there may be some other changes after all. |
Since SVGs can be used directly
- Updates the track mute/solo buttons - Makes the compact track view slightly larger to fit new assets (sorry) - Update mixer mute/solo buttons - Add mute/solo buttons to sample track window to match instruments
Good catch! I am able to replicate it as well using the CI build artifacts on my Windows system. Running it from the console reveals the following output:
Edit: It looks like the new assets were just not being included in the installer at all. Also, track labels disappear in compact mode, that's part of how it becomes compact. That is intended behavior. You can still open the track window by clicking on the icon instead. |
@AW1534 That should be fixed, it was an issue with SVG theme resources not getting packaged into the installer. Can you test it again? |
That's how compact mode works |
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I don't know if its just my system acting odd, but can you check the Greppi demo for me real quick? I had an issue where I couldn't mute the mixer channels in the project ranging from [1, 7]. Both regular mode and compacted mode had this issue. The solo button works fine however.
Edit: Nevermind, the mute buttons were connected to MIDI 🤯 |
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Tested it in regular mode and compacted mode. The PR works fine AFAICT.
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Tested:
- PASS: default theme
- PASS: classic theme
- PASS: default + compact
- PASS: classic + compact
Due to the difference in colors between some mixer channels, the instrument window and the song editor, it's a near impossible feat to get a "button" that looks OK in all of these.
By switching the assets to transparent in the latest commit (screenshot), I think this is the closet this theme can get to having a single shared svg to work this well on all of the various background colors.
Moving forward, I have a feeling that as @Gabrielxd195 has pointed out that the color and brightness of the "ON" buttons is likely to be continually scrutinized. Although I personally prefer them to be dimmer like @RoxasKH's mockup, I feel this minor change will sort itself out over time, so I'm approving this PR as it stands.
I was looking at how Ardour and Qtractor have their "Solo" and "Volume" buttons. And I thought that if we apply this to LMMS, it would be to leave all the tracks in "ON" with the buttons in white with their respective icons (the speaker and the headphone), if we leave a track in "Solo" its "headphone" icon will be painted green; while the other buttons of the tracks in "Mute" will have the speaker icon in red, but that green and red would be as I showed them in my edition of the previous mockup. The only difference would be that we will no longer have all the buttons in green as we currently have in LMMS, but with the implementation of this PR, it would not be so confusing for users because there will be a change in the design of those buttons and it will be more intuitive and similar to other DAWs. Personally I don't see so many complications in this, I think (if I'm not mistaken) that we are in time to correct it. (Google Translate). |
Correct what? The color? This point was already made in your previous post. Green is a primary color in LMMS. Solo should stand out as an outlier. This is how GarageBand does it too, they use yellow. If you compare 100 DAWs, you'll get 100 different color combos.💚 (Not to mention that green looks a bit too much like the app icon) |
In each DAW the buttons are given a color according to their color palette, in this case in LMMS it is green, white, gray and dark gray, but in this change I see that the chosen colors (pink for the "OFF" button and a turquoise blue for the "Solo" button) do not match at all with the rest of the buttons in the LMMS interface, nor is it that the colors Green and Red are seen everywhere in the interface, therefore, the green that I showed in my mockup is only in that single "Solo" button, it is not that it is painted everywhere. And I do not see any problem with it resembling the application button, that is irrelevant. Greetings |
If the mute and solo matched with the colour palette, it is possible that a person using mute or solo may not realise it since everything is coloured the same way. Also, the lmms application icon is not based off the solo, so it will look strange for the solo icon to be like the application icon but slightly different shaped. It is not a good idea to have buttons that look similar to the lmms icon unless they have functions that are by themselves about LMMS. |
@Monospace-V No bro, that's why I highlighted Red and Green in my mockup. Also, if you look closely, in many apps and devices, red is used as something that is disabled and green as enabled, precisely because these two colors are closely related to turning things on and off, they are the most suitable colors and well combined with the LMMS palette to let users know when a track is on, off or soloed. Also, you yourself say that the LMMS button is not based on the newly created solo button, because both designs look very different: the one in the app looks like isometric square headphones; while the solo button looks like more rounded headphones. I don't think this is a big problem. |
Please provide a mockup specific to the classic theme if you have a better highlight color proposal.
We're actively discussing this on Discord and I think that the existing theme colors are being broken. Here's a side-by-side. (although these are deliberately intended to grab attention, so they may need to break the theme regardless of the palette)
I think calling things "yellow" and "pink" are not specific enough, so let's work directly from the palette we have please. These icons are saved as Optimized SVG in inkscape and the downloads for this PR are here: https://lmms.io/download/pull-request/7708. You can edit them yourself. I want to be clear though, only constructive feedback will be tolerated. Repeating the same thing may cause posts to be hidden. Brief and specific please. |
Correction, @rubiefawn has informed me that the existing colors take directly from the palette (although at second glance this may have in reference only to the red? Clarification may be needed here.) |
The red is taken from the color palette, and lightened as needed. The blue is taken from #5166. |
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Amended history to properly credit @StakeoutPunch, nothing else was changed |
Before PR: After PR (screenshot by @SpomJ): Was this changed intentionally? Why? |
Yes, I did change the alignment of those, but I was not aware you could resize tracks vertically. That's a mistake on my part. I'll fix that. |
In #7708, the track operations widget was given a centered vertical alignment in order to fix an aesthetic layout issue. This is being reverted, since it is possible to resize tracks, and all the other track interface elements are top-aligned.
Updates mute/solo buttons with new assets (slashed speaker icon, headphone icon) to better communicate their purpose, since the current LED assets can be ambiguous without labels. Additionally, resolves #2685 by adding mute and solo controls to instrument track windows and sample track windows next to the volume knob.
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